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Re: No changes for the 2014 Focus Electric

Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:42 pm

According to Ford, there is no problem. They are producing and "marketing" the FFE as a niche product and are happy with the current sales numbers. They don't seem to be concerned with "competing" with the Leaf when it comes to sales numbers.

As far as availability... What's the availability in your area of other current Ford niche products, i.e. the GT500 or Focus ST? I'm guessing that the availability of these two products are probably as scarce as the FFE, when compared to how many garden-variety Mustangs and Focuses are sitting on dealer lots.
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Re: No changes for the 2014 Focus Electric

Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:13 pm

charlestonleafer wrote:Leaf base price is 10k cheaper than Focus. I know the base Focus has more features....
I disagree. There is no need for a bare bones Focus Electric. Ford isn't in the EV business to sell cheap basic transportation like GM's Chevy Spark or a bare bones Leaf.

If you compare the top of the line Leaf to the leather Focus Electric, you are looking at more like $5K difference, and the lease price difference is flipped; the Focus Electric is MUCH lower. The top-of-the-line Leaf leases a 39 month for $590 per month. That is compared to something less than $300 a month for 36 months for the Focus Electric.

So, no, the Focus Electric doesn't need to compete with a Leaf on price. I drove the Leaf; it drives like an appliance. The difference between the cars is shocking. Heh, heh.
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Re: No changes for the 2014 Focus Electric

Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:56 pm

They announced a couple of days ago that pricing will be $5K less for the 14's, so I guess you could say there was a change.

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Re: No changes for the 2014 Focus Electric

Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:40 pm

Here are the changes I'm seeing:
$4k less (although there has been a $4k Ford discount for months)
The Focus Electric's 6.6 kW, 240-volt charging time has been reduced from 4 hours to 3.6 hours
The torque is going from 184 pound-feet to 181 (less than 2% drop)
Mats are no longer an option (are the embroidered mats now standard?)
In June, just a month ago, Ford’s director of Global Electrification said they were going to evolve the product, make it better and better, and not drop the price, the rest of the company apparently didn't read her memo.

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Re: No changes for the 2014 Focus Electric

Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:05 pm

paulj wrote:The Focus Electric's 6.6 kW, 240-volt charging time has been reduced from 4 hours to 3.6 hours
Not really a change. This has always been the charge time at 6.6kw. They are just now advertising it as 3.6 instead of saying "3 to 4 hours".
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Re: No changes for the 2014 Focus Electric

Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:22 pm

A dealer near me finally got one! Stopped by today, sticker was $42k and the add on dealer sticker added another 2k for "limited availability". 44k!? You gotta be kidding me!?
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Re: No changes for the 2014 Focus Electric

Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:31 am

Is this true i thought many if car companies are making a develop electric cars ,cause in Finland some of company does it cause i also seen some sähköauton lataus or electric car charging which mean there are many electric cars right now are on the street and what more in next year.

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Re: No changes for the 2014 Focus Electric

Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:49 am

charlestonleafer wrote:A dealer near me finally got one! Stopped by today, sticker was $42k and the add on dealer sticker added another 2k for "limited availability". 44k!? You gotta be kidding me!?
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Re: No changes for the 2014 Focus Electric

Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:11 pm

Funny enough I am a Lightning guy and there was very minimal changes through both runs of the truck. Ending with the sole option for the 03/04 Lightning being the trailer hitch. Everything else came standard.

That said while poking around at the SVT (as I am a massive SVT, guy I've had 8) I nearly shat when the "market adjustment" for a 2012 Gt500 in the show room was $14k. Had they pulled that crap with a Focus I'da been out of there in a second. My sticker was $42,700 + tax for a 2013. The 2014 they had (with the -$4k) was $40k. They "added" dealer installed options like, door ding stickers which are pealing off mine, and paint protection.

It's interesting how no dealer can just take the Ford lease deal and say "ok" and call it a day. They came back with me at $2k down $435 a month and claimed it was "taxes". What? I wasn't born yesterday... But I wanted the black one they had (2013 SSN possible issues and all, hey, it's not ice blue..) for the 14's deal. I got within $15 a month and called it a weekend, mainly due to the fact I already knew there were no changes. Stealer attempted to claim this one "fully loaded" and the 2014 didn't have the features. I pulled the window sticker and said "show me the options the 14 has over this".

There are 5 FFE's in PHX. 2 are 2014's. I had to drive 12 miles to get mine. I wouldn't have if it was 30+.
That said I was at Nissan last month and drove the base and Premium Leafs. They had 8 on 1 lot alone. The lease deal I hit with my FFE is $2k down and $30 less than the Premium Leaf.

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