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    battery capacity is going down

    my charge time has reduced to 2 hours, but maybe you are all correct about the winter capacity -- lets wait till spring and then I will scream bloody murder :twisted:
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    battery capacity is going down

    So when I bought the car in September I recorded 18.5 kw-hr charge capacity. I had a long trip to Julian (see one of my posts), in November that I used up 17.7 kw-hr on an 80+ mile trip with 8% remaining. I did a whole bunch of short trips over the week and put it to charge and I was shocked...
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    Round trip to the mountains here in San Diego

    ya we did not leave it in neutral for the duration of the back trip. It was regenerated and burned all continuous. Could we have done better, sure, I am still impressed. This is with two adults, and a baby with stroller and baby stuff (might as well call it 3 people) What is the most...
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    Round trip to the mountains here in San Diego

    So today we have made it there and back on our FFE 2014 to Julian, CA. Julian is situated over 4,000 ft above sea level and 40 miles from my house. Total elevation gained was over 6,500 ft. This was whole family and a stroller. 17.7 Kw-hr used round trip (13.3 there and 4.4 back). Still have...
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    Zippy or Zen - Who's the Zippiest of them all?

    Use that testosterone wisely. -- Don't spend it in one go :lol:
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    $6,000 Cash Back on 2014 Focus Electric

    Labor day they did 6500 cash back here in san diego. Found number 1 dealer and he was willing to negociate off the MSRP to get the deal. So for their top of the line (with leather) car for the price less than chevy spark (17450 plus all the taxes)
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    2015 FFE interior color option? Reported "10 wheels?"

    Only concern is your 120V charging. IT TAKES 18+ hours do charge on that low of a voltage. If you can get an electrician to determine if you get a native 240V service then you can charge in few hours and that would work. I LOVE our JuiceBox
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    Bay area governments make big EV buy

    Fun stuff, Now I want the cops to have all electric cars and if you do drive an EV and can force a cop to run out of energy then you get a get out of jail free card
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    Energy Draw to Charge

    BEV? what are those, I am new to this stuff But you are right on the gas being replaced with electricity. However it is not that easy to say 300$ = 20$, well not in CA. The dreaded state. Our electricity tiers are outrageous. Tier 1 = 15 cents (up to your baseline which is about 11 kwhr a...
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    Energy Draw to Charge

    :lol: :lol: OOOPSSS I meant to say I promised my wife who is my soulmate ...
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    Energy Draw to Charge

    essentially yes, Maybe not mid to high 90s, but low 90s defenetely doable. 97% on batteries plus 95% on inversion of the voltage, 90 to 93% depending on a situation. The reason I am harping on this is that I have installed solar my self. I know what I am producing, I expect certain...
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    Energy Draw to Charge

    The battery cells are 97 to 99% efficient (any lower and they would blow up and they used to blow up) at a charge of 0.8C http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries I have a lot of experience with the Lion and LiFePo batteries from my work and my side projects I...
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    Storage mode

    It is already done. This is why it is only 80 to 85% of the rated capacity
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    Basic Explanation for reduced capacity

    Reduction of capacity from 23 kwh to 19.5 kwh and my brand new bought will only charge to 18.5 kwh is probably to save ford from paying out the battery warranty here is the article http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries Derating the battery capacity...
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    Energy Draw to Charge

    It is actually really bad. Solar cells get inverted at 95% from DC to AC. Some of the new power supplies for computers (really high end stuff) is 90+% effiicient (platinum grade). I just installed solar panels on my house and I have read all of the specs. So 70% for electrical to electrical...
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    Energy Draw to Charge

    This was 120V charging scheme. So I will measure more and check the temperature in the garage (the car is parked inside). I am going to get the 240 volt charger and see what will happen then
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    Energy Draw to Charge

    Has anyone put a KillaWatt on the slow 110 charger to see how much does the energy it takes to charge the car fully? I have and was terrified So to charge 10.6 kWh of battery capacity I have used 14.5 kWh which means it is 73% efficient. This is quite bad. I hope that this inefficiency is...
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    Did you negotiate your price under MSRP ?

    We just got ice storm metallic with leather whose MSRP was 36,990. We visited the dealership that was high volume just to test drive. The guy said that he will be able to do below MSRP plus the $6500 cash back. After telling him that we are planning to do Costco he lowered the price to 1000...
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