jlsoaz said:I spoke to a Tucson dealer the other day that is slated to receive the vehicle, but wasn't able to get any sort of details.
jlsoaz said:jlsoaz said:I spoke to a Tucson dealer the other day that is slated to receive the vehicle, but wasn't able to get any sort of details.
Side note:
I am really frustrated and angry with Ford. The FFE looks good, but the Volt and Leaf have been out for nearly two years now, and have worked the kinks out and Ford, with their dithering, is not even available in my state yet. I guess they are not as committed as Chevy to offering me a way to stop using oil and a way for me to leverage the solar panels I have set on in my yard.
redEV said:Agree, but as I waited 18 months !!! from time of placing a 'deposit' until it was delivered for our '12 LEAF it's the same all over -- Chicago wasn't a launch area for the LEAF but it was for the FFE and they still aren't here so perhaps Ford is even further behind, a few FFE owners are also experiencing a few issues so even after waiting this long hopefully the Ford planners fully vetted the car. We're really interested in the C-Max (either just the hybrid or plug-in), the good news is that local dealers have placed orders for the hybrid which should arrive any day now; the trend for higher sales seems to be the plug-in hybrids; either like the Volt or plug-in Prius, etc. for the extended range and not unfortunately the 'pure' BEV's like the LEAF, Mitsu 'i' and this FFE so we'll see how fast sales and availability ramp up for it.
jlsoaz said:redEV said:have to commit to a 2-year Volt Lease, since Ford just couldn't get off its behind in time.
It is not just the engineering and shake-out period in which GM and Nissan and Mitsubishi are ahead. It is also in financing. Those three seem to have realized that with the 7500 credit, the leasing company gets it, so they offer seemingly attractive terms to the lessee. This may not yet be true for Ford (as best I can tell.... leasing information is very difficult to come by).
[/quote]redEV said:jlsoaz said:have to commit to a 2-year Volt Lease, since Ford just couldn't get off its behind in time.
It is not just the engineering and shake-out period in which GM and Nissan and Mitsubishi are ahead. It is also in financing. Those three seem to have realized that with the 7500 credit, the leasing company gets it, so they offer seemingly attractive terms to the lessee. This may not yet be true for Ford (as best I can tell.... leasing information is very difficult to come by).
Can't speak about Mitsu, but I think GM's and certainly Nissan's (NMAC - Nissan Motor Acceptance Corporation) leasing is an extension of the car companies themselves so THEY actually get the $7,500 rebate; even more interesting about Ford is even though its very limited availability, they're already offering a $1,000 incentive on the C-Max hybrid --- of course this one doesn't get any federal incentives just the Energi (plug-in) does but still? No leasing deals but discount financing instead of the cash incentive as well ... It appears that they pre-built 566 of them in July (see article below) far more than the FFE so again I see these PHEV's getting more traction. We haven't had one moment of regret with our LEAF but to be honest we may have been just as happy with an FFE if they came out first even with the higher price premium but as with some car transactions you can typically only wait so long (trade-in values, condition of car being replaced, lease expiring, etc., etc.) before you need to get something --- we have a lot of folks who have Volts over on the mynissanleaf forum so you should be happy with it even though not a Ford! In AZ lots of concern over losing battery capacity with the heat in such a short time, we don't have that here in the midwest so can understand that as well ... so far the hybrid C-Max has done well in early road tests, can't wait to see how the Energi version does but looks like 201 for that.
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2012/08/2013-ford-c-max-hybrid-already-has-1000-cash-back.html
By the way the 19 launch markets this time around are ...
Austin and Houston, Texas; Boston; Chicago; Denver; Detroit; Los Angeles; San Francisco; San Diego; New York City; northern New Jersey; Orlando; Phoenix and Tucson, Ariz.; Portland, Ore.; Raleigh-Durham, N.C.; Richmond, Va.; Seattle; and Washington, D.C.
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