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Re: OBD Scan Tools Info / Data

They must have a local depot. The delivery often happens at night. People around here get there groceries delivered by Amazon at like 5 AM.

And this one-day delivery was at no charge....




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ScanTool 427201 OBDLink LX Bluetooth: OBD Adapter/Diagnostic Scanner for Android & Windows
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Re: OBD Scan Tools Info / Data

michael wrote: ScanTool 427201 OBDLink LX Bluetooth: OBD Adapter/Diagnostic Scanner for Android & Windows
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You bought the LX instead of the MX. The LX can only read HSCAN modules, it cannot read modules on the MSCAN. I'm not sure which modules this means you won't be able to access. I'm not with the Focus right now to be able to check.
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Re: OBD Scan Tools Info / Data

OK, thanks for catching this. I'll return it and get the one you recommend.

In the meanwhile, it seems to be working great...I see a lot of modules and seem to read the PIDs fine

Thanks, guys, for turning me on to this.


Follow up: It seems fine with this one. Please let me know if I need to exchange it or not.
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Re: OBD Scan Tools Info / Data

michael wrote:Follow up: It seems fine with this one. Please let me know if I need to exchange it or not.
Give us the list of modules FORScan finds.
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Re: OBD Scan Tools Info / Data

BECM
SOBDM
TCM
PCM
APIM
ACCM
GFM
SASM
OCM
ABS
DCDC
RDCM
PAM
PSCM
BdyCM
GWM
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hybridbear
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Re: OBD Scan Tools Info / Data

michael wrote:BECM
SOBDM
TCM
PCM
APIM
ACCM
GFM
SASM
OCM
ABS
DCDC
RDCM
PAM
PSCM
BdyCM
GWM
HVAC? That one must be MSCAN. That one shows the air temp of the air coming out each vent & the blower fan speed, among other things. It looks like you have all the main ones.

You get all the main ones that I look at: BECM, PCM, TCM, BdyCM & SOBDM when charging.

Can you do me a favor and test something? Please try setting up your TCM with the same PIDs I have and see if your car will reliably read the data. Mine will error out after awhile and show this message:
Image
I don't know if the issue is with the car, my OBDLink MX scanner or FORScan. It happened with both beta versions of FORScan I used and the production version.

Thank you!
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Re: OBD Scan Tools Info / Data

hybridbear wrote:Please try setting up your TCM with the same PIDs I have and see if your car will reliably read the data.
FYI Mine read those without issue.
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Re: OBD Scan Tools Info / Data

jmueller065 wrote:
hybridbear wrote:Please try setting up your TCM with the same PIDs I have and see if your car will reliably read the data.
FYI Mine read those without issue.
Thanks. I wonder if I have a bad OBDLink MX or if I have an issue with the car. I have tried both OBDII ports in the FFE and both have the same result. My tablet will usually read PIDs from the TCM for about 30 seconds to 3 minutes before showing the error in the pic above. Once the error happens the first time it gets progressively worse to the point where I can no longer read any data from the TCM until I re-establish the connection between FORScan & the car.
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Re: OBD Scan Tools Info / Data

I took my morning commute today with the Forscan running. What I noticed was variations in the maximum cell variation.

At rest, it was 0.01, but while driving it reached higher levels. At the application of full throttle, it would reach 0.08, occasionally 0.10 for a few seconds, and then reduce to perhaps 0.07 or even less after a few seconds of continuing full throttle. Obviously I couldn't hold full throttle for too long as speed got too high.

I see this as variations in the internal resistance of the cells. What I don't have any feeling for is how my value compares with what others are seeing. Anybody have insight in this?

I saw these variations both shortly after leaving home (with battery still almost fully charged) and later in the commute (with SOC in the 30% range).

At rest, late in the commute, imbalance was typically 0.02.

Also, the results I'm seeing from Forscan do agree with what my Scan Gauge has been showing. I had speculated that there was some scaling error in one or the other that explained why I was seeing only 18.2 kWh or so ETE while other were showing higher, but this turns out not to be so. Both Forscan and ScanGauge agree on this lower value.
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Re: OBD Scan Tools Info / Data

michael wrote:What I don't have any feeling for is how my value compares with what others are seeing. Anybody have insight in this?
Check out this post http://www.myfocuselectric.com/forum/vi ... =90#p20597
I know that Jamie also has FORScan working, I wonder what he sees for variation.
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