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Re: Cheap L2 chargers on ebay

Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:45 am

The design of that one looks like the Duosida charger, which is reportedly a L2 240V/16A model. It's probably a knockoff of that. https://www.evgadgets.com/duosida-porta ... ers-guide/
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Re: Cheap L2 chargers on ebay

Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:54 pm

Carbuff wrote:
spirilis wrote:The design of that one looks like the Duosida charger, which is reportedly a L2 240V/16A model. It's probably a knockoff of that. https://www.evgadgets.com/duosida-porta ... ers-guide/
Yes, thats the one it looks like. So, that will charge my car twice as fast as the stock ford evse?
It should charge about 2.7 X faster. Stock L1: 120V x 12A = 1440 Watts, Duosida L2: 240V x 16A = 3840 Watts

This might still limit the amount of cabin pre-conditioning you can do from grid electricity (heater can draw over 5kw) but has the advantage of being quite portable.

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Re: Cheap L2 chargers on ebay

Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:29 pm

Read this article before you buy anything off of eBay or Amazon.

https://chargedevs.com/features/amazon-evse-safety/

Here's how I look at it. Save $100 or $200 on a cheap charger. It might catch on fire. Burn down your garage, house, or car. There isn't a lot of savings there. There is a lot of current - power - running through that wire. And your car will charge at night when you won't be around to monitor if the wires are getting too hot.

I would walk far far away from any of those devices you found on eBay.
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Re: Cheap L2 chargers on ebay

Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:22 pm

True, that could be a concern, especially if you can't even tell if the individual components are UL listed. Although eBay doesn't necessarily equal junk - you can find UL listed EVSEs on eBay.

Something similar to the Duosida that is apparently UL listed: https://www.amazon.com/AmazingE-Portabl ... s=AmazingE

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/temp ... sequence=1

Another relatively affordable option is the GE DuraStation: http://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-EV-Charge ... urastation

It has jumpers on the control board to reduce the max current (30A, 24A, 16A IIRC), if necessary.

If you're set on 16A, a ClipperCreek LCS-20 would be a solid choice: https://store.clippercreek.com/all-prod ... ng-station

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Re: Cheap L2 chargers on ebay

Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:14 am

I have a ClipperCreek LCS-20P that I've been using for quite some time now. It lives in the car so I can get a charge at any 240V plug (been mostly using it with the C-Max at campgrounds..works like a charm).
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Re: Cheap L2 chargers on ebay

Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:40 am

jmueller065 wrote:I have a ClipperCreek LCS-20P that I've been using for quite some time now. It lives in the car so I can get a charge at any 240V plug (been mostly using it with the C-Max at campgrounds..works like a charm).
Which plug does it use? Do you have any personal thoughts on what 240V plug to "standardize" on (since you can build umpteen numbers of adapters, the Tesla folks standardized on 14-50 but that's such a bulky connector IMO)
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Re: Cheap L2 chargers on ebay

Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:26 am

spirilis wrote:
jmueller065 wrote:I have a ClipperCreek LCS-20P that I've been using for quite some time now. It lives in the car so I can get a charge at any 240V plug (been mostly using it with the C-Max at campgrounds..works like a charm).
Which plug does it use? Do you have any personal thoughts on what 240V plug to "standardize" on (since you can build umpteen numbers of adapters, the Tesla folks standardized on 14-50 but that's such a bulky connector IMO)
I have a 14-50 adapter for the LCS-20P as the 50 amp RV connector is a 14-50 plug.

My LCS-20P came with an L6-30 plug.

So far those are the only two I've had to use (I have other EVSE's for use at home: A Juicebox, and a Bosch one).
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