Stop Safely Now Warning

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If you have the climate control on when the car is started and then turn it off the "+12 +13" is normal. The minus single digits is also normal unless you are driving in super zen mode....

[signal twenty]

If you have the climate control on when the car is started and then turn it off the "+12 +13" is normal. The minus single digits is also normal unless you are driving in super zen mode....

When I picked the car up last week from the dealership, the A/C was on - I turned it off and that's when I was getting the +12/13, so that makes sense. I am almost always driving in super zen mode so the negatives are a little concerning to me.

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Signal twenty Configure your left screen to show your trip meter plus the kWh used plus your rolling Wh/mi average. If you reset trip meter (kWh used) when you charge you will be able to see how far you went using how many kWh from the battery. The rolling average Wh/mi is what you should care about being your first clue something is wrong. If you're driving very zen like your Wh/mi should be in the low 200s and if you're really good upper 100s. My summer averages between 225 and 250 Wh/mi and in winter when it gets cold it shoots into the 350+ neighborhood. Seeing as how you're in FL you shouldn't have to worry much about the cold. Also those +/- numbers are based on the guess-o-meter which can fluctuate wildly seemingly without reason. I personally don't pay any attention to it until the battery is below 50% charge. As you get closer to a dead battery the guess-o-meter gets more accurate. Depending on how well the PO treated the battery, you should have between 15-18kWh useable battery capacity. The more often you deep discharge the battery the greater your capacity degradation will be. Also while not as detrimental to battery health, lithium batteries do not like sitting around fully charged all the time. My driving habits result in my battery rarely being discharged much below 30%. Also while I don't have TOU electric rates I use value charging so that my car finishes charging just before I get up in the morning to minimize how long it sits fully charged. The value charging setup is not very intuitive. You have to set 120V or 240V and if the estimated charge time is greater than the time window you specified it will default to charge now.

[barrey]

Resurrecting this thread to report a new Stop Safely Now.

2016 FFE, almost 20K miles, wife got the SSN message today for the first time before backing out of the driveway.

Tried a few things and waited a couple hours, but no joy.
While waiting for the tow truck, I hooked up the ELM327 and ForScan and pulled Code P0A0a - High Voltage System Inter-lock Circuit.
- General Electrical Failure.

We'll see what they find...

-Barrey

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Fingers crossed for a new 33.5kWh battery....

[andymcafee]

Asking for advice:

Please forgive me if I am posting this in the wrong thread, but I am currently considering purchasing a specific used FFE. I do not currently own one (only test driven one). The FFE I am considering is 2013 51,500 miles 3 previous owners (according to dealer), VIN: 1FADP3R40DL165335. Otherwise, I don't know much about it. Dealer knows nothing about it. I live in Central TX (50 miles from North Austin). There are a couple of Ford dealers in my town, but they likely have never had a FFE in their service department. I test drove another FFE in Austin, but decided not to buy it as I had a bad feeling about it after I had it inspected and after discovering it was purchased from Auction.

I am basically asking for advice. I have no way of knowing if this FFE has issues. I read this entire thread about the various SSN issues and the headaches it has caused owners. I certainly don't want a high maintenance vehicle. Rather, my objective is to both save money with gas and save time with maintenance (oil, fluids, etc). This vehicle is significantly less expensive than the few 2015 LEAFs I am considering. I really like the FFE, but I would love to hear feedback from other owners before I decide whether or not to drive 125 miles to check it out this weekend.

Any feedback is appreciated!

[thanhdaica1985]

Asking for advice:

Please forgive me if I am posting this in the wrong thread, but I am currently considering purchasing a specific used FFE. I do not currently own one (only test driven one). The FFE I am considering is 2013 51,500 miles 3 previous owners (according to dealer), VIN: 1FADP3R40DL165335. Otherwise, I don't know much about it. Dealer knows nothing about it. I live in Central TX (50 miles from North Austin). There are a couple of Ford dealers in my town, but they likely have never had a FFE in their service department. I test drove another FFE in Austin, but decided not to buy it as I had a bad feeling about it after I had it inspected and after discovering it was purchased from Auction.

I am basically asking for advice. I have no way of knowing if this FFE has issues. I read this entire thread about the various SSN issues and the headaches it has caused owners. I certainly don't want a high maintenance vehicle. Rather, my objective is to both save money with gas and save time with maintenance (oil, fluids, etc). This vehicle is significantly less expensive than the few 2015 LEAFs I am considering. I really like the FFE, but I would love to hear feedback from other owners before I decide whether or not to drive 125 miles to check it out this weekend.

Any feedback is appreciated!

You should try to invest in an OBD2 reader that works with ForScan to see what the estimated capacity left for the battery. I bought mine used as well at 71,000. It is now 81,000 with about 15 Kwh left of the original 19.5 usable Kwh. FFE liquid cool is not that smart as the Chevy Bolt since it will only cool if the car is on or plugged in. I haven't had any issue with the car mechanically, other than a failed 12V battery 6 months after my purchase. The range in the winter for me is about 45 miles and now it's about 55 miles with mostly local roads. There's a current recall for the charging cord, make sure the dealer completed that before you buy. Also make sure that they have 2 keys since the key for Focus Electric is very expensive!

[JTCalif]

That advice about getting [or borrowing] an OBD2 reader to test the battery is good.
I have a 2015 FFE, after driving a 2012 one for 3 years. Have liked both. Biggest problem: 12 volt battery died after about 3 and 1/2 years, and was glad I could "jump" it then. (Can use metal key inside fob to unlock door, then pop the hood.) Just in case of a repeat someday, I now carry a small Li-ion jumper battery (Boltpower model D29), used just once to jump a friend's ICE Honda.

I estimated my car's battery capacity at around 18 kWh, after 30,000 miles (tested at 52 degree F).
I try to keep it roughly near mid-full (say, between 1/4 and 3/4 capacity), especially when parked a long time: that probably helps its life.
Note that high speed driving (or much use of cabin air heater) cuts expected miles range a Lot. Keeping speed under about 64 mph helps.
Starting: just don't hurry the process (brake pedal, 1 second pause, press Go button, wait a sec. for green light, then drive).

[andymcafee]

Thanks for the advice about the ODB2 scanner and making sure 2 keys. Just ordered an ODB2 scanner. A friend of mine has 2014 FFE (owned for about 14 months), which is why I am considering getting one. He loves his, and he had to replace his 12V battery as well. I was primarily concerned with the SSN messages and wondering if I should expect issues with that, but maybe there is not a way to diagnose. Anything else I should look out for?

[JTCalif]

Ask about outstanding "Field Service Action" items (mfr. recalls).
With the VIN you posted, can go to owner.ford.com and find something.
Think I saw "12M02" but do not know what that is about.