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Re: Value Charge Not Working

Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:24 pm

It says to use 10 AWG because it assumes you want to actually pull 30-50A through it.

Since you're only expecting to pull 12A for this (the max that travel cord will actually allow) and it doesn't need to be long, 14AWG would be fine for up to 15A. No problem using 12AWG but I can't imagine 10AWG would be of any benefit, unless you want to run this extension all the way across your house AND try to pull 20A+ with some other device.

It's unlikely that it will have some sort of problem clamping onto smaller wire - the upper size limit is usually the hard cut-off. And if for some reason it really can't clamp the smaller diameter, you can strip a bit extra and double it back to thicken things up. Practically certain you won't need to do that though.

If you don't expect to use the wire for anything else, I'd suggest hitting whatever Home Depot like store is around and buy it by the foot. They will have it on reels and you can take whatever length you need instead of getting a larger roll. Whatever 14/2 + 16AWG ground or 12/2 + 14AWG ground they have. If you want to actually run it 25 feet, then you certainly could just use this https://www.amazon.com/Southwire-288282 ... B000BPG1ZC. But if it's going to be a stub length, I'd personally grab a cut of 14/2+Ground by the foot.

And if you want to get stuff "faster" you can probably get both these plug ends there too, though I can't speak to the price.
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seethatdotca
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Re: Value Charge Not Working

Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:21 pm

Sounds good. I will go check out Home Depot but I can't find those parts on the Canadian website so I doubt they have them in the store. I'll see. If not, I'll order it from Amazon. Thanks for the help. :)

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Re: Value Charge Not Working

Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:16 pm

Keep an eye out for junked appliances and at thrift stores like Goodwill. It's not uncommon to see 3 and 4 pin appliance cords just hanging up and selling for like $3.
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Re: Value Charge Not Working

Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:53 am

To make things easier I would look for an extension cord or short adapter cord to hack up. That way you only have one end to install. I bought this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S2P6HG6/ and this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007HFT034 I also have NEMA 6-50 for home charging and needed to make an adapter to TT30 (30A 120VAC RV hookup) for camp ground charging my Tesla. I am using the other end of the cord for a welder that only draws about 20A

I had it charging at 24A overnight (NEC 80% rule). Then for the hour or so before I left the campground I upped it to the max my EVSE supported 32A. Frighteningly it didn't trip the breaker nor did the cord get too hot being only 12GA. It was also about freezing out. I would never try this at home where it could possibly burn my house down though.
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Re: Value Charge Not Working

Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:12 am

Looky looky what I made. :D I haven't tried it yet. I'll do it tonight during non-peak hours.

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Re: Value Charge Not Working

Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:23 pm

I was looking forward to seeing this. What was the final parts list?

Also, you can test the charger itself before off-peak. The guts pull very little when not plugged into the car and it's those parts that are of the greatest concern for it working on 240V anyway.
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Re: Value Charge Not Working

Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:21 pm

Cost me exactly $20.35 CDN. I bought both plugs from Princess Auto. The 240v plug is on sale right now... both were cheaper than Amazon, even before the sale price.

I used a 12 AWG wire, my neighbour the electrician had a 12" piece available.

I can plug in my EVSE and the light turns on so I'm getting power, and it hasn't caught fire yet. I just need to plug it in the car now. Not sure I'll be able to do it today though.


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Re: Value Charge Not Working

Mon Dec 06, 2021 4:06 pm

If you had to buy the wire, you might be at $25 CAD. Not bad, eh?
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Re: Value Charge Not Working

Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:57 pm

That's a pretty good deal to double the charging power, if it works. I don't think I'll need more than that but we'll see.

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