tinilk
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Re: Quick charge project

Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:05 am

Sefs, it's been fascinating watching the progress on your project. It's very inspiring and helps dissuade my tendency to think of the FFE's electronics as a bunch of inscrutable black boxes wired together.

I'll bet if you're willing, someone on this forum would happily pay whatever your asking price would be for the charger setup (and perhaps sign a disclaimer promising not to electrocute themselves).

Enjoy your new ride!
2014 FFE - Ingot Silver
2018 Volt (leased)

triangles
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Location: Toledo, Ohio

Re: Quick charge project

Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:05 pm

Enjoy the new Tesla. What config did you go for?
2014 Blue Candy FFE
http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/focus/2014/triangles/303811 (since this forum doesn't allow BBcode in sigs)

sefs
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Re: Quick charge project

Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:57 am

triangles wrote:Enjoy the new Tesla. What config did you go for?
I went with Red, AWD, sport wheels, black interior, EAP, and FSD.
2018 Tesla Model 3 LR AWD Multicoat Red Metallic
2012 Ford Focus Electric Ingot Silver - Sold
BRUSA Boosted to 46A at 240V charging, 11kW
Chademo DC Quick Charge Enabled!
Home Quick Charger --> 33.8 kW AC / 31.3 kW DC

martii
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Re: Quick charge project

Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:31 am

Here is what I see on the can bus during charging

https://youtu.be/XNThKLELEGs

martii
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Re: Quick charge project

Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:07 pm

So my main question is as I use SavvyCAN to do decoding - what IDs I need to look at to make contactron close to make battery available for charging.

martii
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Re: Quick charge project

Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:46 pm

Just compared 2 CAN sessions, IDLE and plugged in. Turns out that the only new CAN messages were 0x400, 0x405 and 0x40a. Will have to check those closer.

Dobrinia
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Re: Quick charge project

Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:53 am

sefs ,
Can you sell your work, or show the scheme / sketch / firmware and controller?
How to add two 6.6kW inverters to the car to be charged from a 3-phase outlet?
I use translator. Sorry for the mistakes.

martii
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Re: Quick charge project

Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:24 am

OK so I have found some time to play with CAN as it gets warmer. My method is kinda brute force. I'm replaying messages previously recorded at different car state (like SOC, weather). I don't see people are willing to share the knowledge so I will do - as there is so little known about FFE CAN and everybody looks to be happy with Forscan so far.

0x178 is outside temperature - there might be some more information encoded there - I don't know what bytes do what but will find out later.

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0x24C is SOC - when I did inject previously recorded can messages I did get this:
https://youtu.be/HW4CvpDTiCM

still don't know the bytes and stuff but will find out soon. This one alone is enough to do safe DC charging IMHO.

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0x352 - tells about time to full charge:
https://youtu.be/cka7UdCSV_g

Sometimes I got wrench with See manual information.

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Replaying 0x416 does this Christmas tree effect:

https://youtu.be/lmF_sN0j_7A

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Still will be looking for individual cell voltages and other stuff like that but so far I'm closer to my solution.

Cheers
Martin
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martii
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Re: Quick charge project

Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:31 am

Dobrinia wrote:sefs ,
Can you sell your work, or show the scheme / sketch / firmware and controller?
How to add two 6.6kW inverters to the car to be charged from a 3-phase outlet?
I think it was mentioned before that you can't charge faster than 11kW via AC as car will get into faulty state.
All you can add is 3.3kW charger like sefs did - otherwise you need to charge it directly when car is on (and car accepts such current as also sefs tested it already and it worked fine).

Martin

triangles
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Location: Toledo, Ohio

Re: Quick charge project

Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:11 am

Nice work! Glad to see someone working at figuring out how things work on the FFE.
2014 Blue Candy FFE
http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/focus/2014/triangles/303811 (since this forum doesn't allow BBcode in sigs)

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