muhammad
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transmission oil

Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:25 am

i would like to know how i can replace transmission oil ? ,and period to replace oil .
please advise
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Re: transmission oil

Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:48 am

In the FFE since there really is no transmission there is no need to change the transmission oil.

There isn't even transmission oil in the thing--its only gear oil.

Now if you are talking about a gas Focus you're in the wrong place.
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Re: transmission oil

Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:35 pm

Actually it does have Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) in the FFE gear box. Specifically it's Ford Mercon LV. If you change the gear oil do not use anything other than Mercon LV. I would suspect there's probably a wide range of lubricants that would work but without having any knowledge of the lubrication requirements I'd just stick with the factory spec. I seem to vaguely remember that it takes 2 or 2.5 quarts. I have no idea where I might have read that though so don't quote me.
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arborius
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Re: transmission oil

Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:17 am

As far as I know the transmission is a very important part of the vehicle. I always buy my transmission oil for my Focus from an official dealership. I have also learned about some systems that cool the transmission mechanism which assures a cooler temperature of the oil too. This got my attention and I started reading reviews for transmission coolers. As it turned out it is a real thing. By using one the lifespan of the transmission increases by about thirty to forty percent. I have installed one on my car and am eager to know what the difference will be.
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Heima
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Re: transmission oil

Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:49 pm

Right, we are talking about an electric car here. As of this moment, I can think of only one electric car that had anything more than a one-speed transmission. A select few Tesla Roadsters.

All other electric cars have a single speed clutchless continuous engagement gearbox. Because there is no torque converter or clutch packs or bands, there are no mechanical friction/slip components, hence nothing really to produce heat per se. Electric vehicle are always "in gear". Even the Neutral setting is "in gear". Reverse is just the motor running backwards. Yes, your electric vehicle is capable of freeway speeds in reverse, but there are electronic limiters.

EXCEPTION: The motor itself is a slip component and that does produce heat. However, coolant is pumped through the motor, so that handles the heat transfer out. Some electric cars, such as the Tesla Model 3 uses transmission fluid to cool the motor, and that fluid is cooled by a heat exchanger with coolant.

Probably any good quality oil with anti-wear additives could be used, not necessarily gear oil or Mercon LV. The temperature range of a electric vehicles gear box is much lower than an ICE, and there really is no need for an ICE type transmission cooler. Even a Tesla Model X with the towing package does not have an ICE type transmission cooler. Its not needed.

Now a person could argue that it would not hurt to have an ICE type cooler, and I agree, it would not hurt, but it sure would be a waste of money.

Ford probably specified Mercon LV for the FFE because it was the latest and greatest, it was of the best specification, and they could make more money off of it. And if it works ok, why bother with yet another lubricant for just 10,000 (?) cars?

An interesting contrast is the lubricant for the Fiat 500e gearbox. $40 gallon. Special European Shell proprietary oil. Special is because it is only available in Europe and it was developed especially for electric vehicle gearboxes. It is repackaged for Chrysler-Fiat. And it is a gearbox oil, not a transmission fluid.

Anybody who has replaced manual transmission fluid/oil will tell you that there is gear wear inside, and that metallic sludge sticking to the magnet could accelerate wear of softer metals if the magnet wasn't there. So it is a good idea to replace the gearbox fluid on ocassion. Because there are no softer metal synchros in the FFE gearbox, you could probably go 50k miles without concern. If you were towing with the vehicle, you might want to go every 20k or 30k. It depends on the quality of the metals, surface treatments, and hardening on the gears and bearings.

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Re: transmission oil

Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:34 am

arborius wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:17 am
As far as I know the transmission is a very important part of the vehicle. I always buy my transmission oil for my Focus from an official dealership. I have also learned about some systems that cool the transmission mechanism which assures a cooler temperature of the oil too. This got my attention and I started reading reviews for transmission coolers. As it turned out it is a real thing. By using one the lifespan of the transmission increases by about thirty to forty percent. I have installed one on my car and am eager to know what the difference will be.
Why didn’t anyone tell me about this some months ago?!

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