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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:02 am 
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merkurmaniac wrote:
Pretty Uncool. I checked the VIN of the "2018 model", vin number 1FADP3R45JL205114

I used a website to reproduce the window sticker.

2018 5-DR Hatchback
5 Passenger
107 KW ELectric motor
6.6KW charger
33.5 KWH LIQUID COOLED BATTERY <===== UNCOOL PART.


ALso, Assembly plant "MICHIGAN"

Why uncool? We pretty much know nothing is different for the 2018's (and yes ALL FFE's are built at Michigan Assembly plant for the time being).

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:20 pm 
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Uncool, because I had read a comment on here from a Ford interview that sounded like upgrading the range on the 2018 was in the works. One new color is pretty lame.

I wonder when the 2018 Focus in all the spy shots is supposed to debut ? Would it be a 2018.5 ?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:09 am 
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merkurmaniac wrote:
Uncool, because I had read a comment on here from a Ford interview that sounded like upgrading the range on the 2018 was in the works. One new color is pretty lame.

I wonder when the 2018 Focus in all the spy shots is supposed to debut ? Would it be a 2018.5 ?

LOL I think you're giving Ford too much credit. To date Ford has put very little effort into the FFE. I'd rather have low expectations and be rarely surprised than have high expectations and always be disappointed.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:06 am 
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jmueller065 wrote:
merkurmaniac wrote:
Uncool, because I had read a comment on here from a Ford interview that sounded like upgrading the range on the 2018 was in the works. One new color is pretty lame.

I wonder when the 2018 Focus in all the spy shots is supposed to debut ? Would it be a 2018.5 ?

LOL I think you're giving Ford too much credit. To date Ford has put very little effort into the FFE. I'd rather have low expectations and be rarely surprised than have high expectations and always be disappointed.


It's true, the FFE is basically just a compliance car and they're giving it the bare minimum in terms of attention and resources. But the Ford Focus (ICE) is a best-seller and getting plenty of attention. The spy shots are seeing the ICE version which we know will trickle down into all the trim levels. They ARE working on a Focus redesign, we just don't know when it will be available. It's safe to say we won't be seeing any ground-breaking changes in the 2018 model, but some small changes would be possible. I think it's rare that any car gets zero changes between model years.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:30 am 
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Smoking_Rubber wrote:
It's true, the FFE is basically just a compliance car and they're giving it the bare minimum in terms of attention and resources. But the Ford Focus (ICE) is a best-seller and getting plenty of attention. The spy shots are seeing the ICE version which we know will trickle down into all the trim levels. They ARE working on a Focus redesign, we just don't know when it will be available. It's safe to say we won't be seeing any ground-breaking changes in the 2018 model, but some small changes would be possible. I think it's rare that any car gets zero changes between model years.

Except for the FFE of course. No changes from 2012 - 2016 even though the ICE focus was tweaked quite a bit (new grill, etc.).

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:31 am 
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jmueller065 wrote:
Except for the FFE of course. No changes from 2012 - 2016 even though the ICE focus was tweaked quite a bit (new grill, etc.).

2015-16 got a new interior and slight sheet metal tweak (different rear lights). But yeah basically no changes other than what trickled down from the ICE version until '17s bigger battery.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:19 am 
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There are always small changes. Even when they just went from Sync2 to Sync3, that's a small change. Example: the 2014 FJ Cruiser got an extra track bar support beam. Everything else is identical to a 2013 model but they added 1 bar underneath. There's always something that gets changed.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:27 am 
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I think the problem is that the ffe was a fine vehicle except for the range, Now peoples leases are coming due and theyre looking to get another ev and are looking to ford for a viable solution and they dont have one to offer. I think many ffe owners will end up with a bolt or tesla3. They love the ffe but need more range and ford seems to have been asleep at the wheel with regards to that. If ford offered a ffe with 200+ mile range they would probably retain 75% of their end of lease customers. I think most will bolt from ford, pun intended. :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:52 am 
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Carbuff wrote:
I think the problem is that the ffe was a fine vehicle except for the range, Now peoples leases are coming due and theyre looking to get another ev and are looking to ford for a viable solution and they dont have one to offer. I think many ffe owners will end up with a bolt or tesla3. They love the ffe but need more range and ford seems to have been asleep at the wheel with regards to that. If ford offered a ffe with 200+ mile range they would probably retain 75% of their end of lease customers. I think most will bolt from ford, pun intended. :lol:

Well Ford did promise a 300 mile EV SUV by 2020 but many can't wait that long.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:09 pm 
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The future is around the corner. There are technologies coming that will put the current batteries and vehicles to shame.

https://futurism.com/a-new-electric-car ... 6-minutes/

"Japanese tech company Toshiba has just announced their next-generation SCiB rechargeable batteries for electric vehicles. According to the company, these new batteries can charge in just six minutes and deliver a range of 200 miles."

https://www.cheatsheet.com/automobiles/ ... ?a=viewall

Unfortunately it's not 2020 yet. I'll have to settle for a 3 year FFE lease, then get my next generation vehicle next time.

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