TareqAwad
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Ford dealership replaced 23kw by new 33.5kw under warranty

Mon May 29, 2017 1:06 pm

this post on Ford Focus Electric Owners Group facebook
he is replaced the old battery replaced under warranty with a new 2017 battery because original battery had an internal coolant leak
and charge it by 240v L2 - 5 hours from zero to full charge

https://www.facebook.com/groups/FordFoc ... 797954740/

davideos
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Re: Ford dealership replaced 23kw by new 33.5kw under warran

Tue May 30, 2017 9:38 am

My 2012 is in the shop again with a battery issue. This is the second time I've had my battery removed and sent to Ford in Michigan. Dealer was about to order a new battery but Ford said no and had my battery shipped back to them. I suppose they will try to fix it...but a new 2017 battery would be nice.

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Re: Ford dealership replaced 23kw by new 33.5kw under warran

Tue May 30, 2017 12:13 pm

This doesn't make sense. This would be like a manufacturer replacing an engine on an ICE car with a newer one with more horsepower or torque.....just can't imagine that happening.
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davideos
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Re: Ford dealership replaced 23kw by new 33.5kw under warran

Tue May 30, 2017 1:07 pm

It depends. Although I would expect the likely case that there are a sufficient number of batteries left over for the previous model years; but if the fit and function are the same (just with more capacity), it would likely be easier to have just one part number. Think of Tesla before they abolished the 60KW battery option...it was actually a 75KW battery but they programmed the car to only use 60KWs of it. It was easier and likely less expensive overall for Tesla to make just one battery for both models than to save some money on the 60KW battery by having a different part number.

Might also be the reason why the price jumped from $8K to $22K as mentioned in an earlier post....where the $22K is the newer battery, which will likely drop in cost as the number produced goes up. Just a thought.

I'm not going to expect the newer battery, but it would be nice to get more range than I currently get....not that I really ever need it.

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Re: Ford dealership replaced 23kw by new 33.5kw under warran

Tue May 30, 2017 5:13 pm

campfamily wrote:This doesn't make sense. This would be like a manufacturer replacing an engine on an ICE car with a newer one with more horsepower or torque.....just can't imagine that happening.
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davideos
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Re: Ford dealership replaced 23kw by new 33.5kw under warran

Wed May 31, 2017 2:26 pm

Service adviser told me that Ford deemed my battery bad and is sending me a new one. No indication if it is a 33KW one or not. I'll just be happy if it is....and hope it will be more reliable.

campfamily
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Re: Ford dealership replaced 23kw by new 33.5kw under warran

Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:54 am

Pearl wrote:
campfamily wrote:This doesn't make sense. This would be like a manufacturer replacing an engine on an ICE car with a newer one with more horsepower or torque.....just can't imagine that happening.
Electric Motor = Gasoline Engine
HV Battery = Fuel Tank
Good point....guess my analogy was a bit off, but the theme is the same. Typically a replacement part is form fit and function identical to the original, except where necessary to fix a defect.
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Re: Ford dealership replaced 23kw by new 33.5kw under warran

Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:25 am

I guess you gotta think of it from the perspective that if they make an improved version of a part why would you still make and/or stock the old inferior version of the same part.
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davideos
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Re: Ford dealership replaced 23kw by new 33.5kw under warran

Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:36 am

Dealer told me a 2017 replacement battery was on the way. Once installed, a technician has to come out to reprogram the car for the new higher capacity battery. Hopefully I'll get my car back by the end of next week...it has been 35 days. I wonder if the 2017 battery is heavier.

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Re: Ford dealership replaced 23kw by new 33.5kw under warran

Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:58 am

davideos wrote:I wonder if the 2017 battery is heavier
If it is it isn't by much: Ford lists the 2017 curb weight as 3640 my 2013 was 3620 lbs...

http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/2017/mod ... l-vehicles
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