have to commit to a 2-year Volt Lease, since Ford just couldn't get off its behind in time.
It is not just the engineering and shake-out period in which GM and Nissan and Mitsubishi are ahead. It is also in financing. Those three seem to have realized that with the 7500 credit, the leasing company gets it, so they offer seemingly attractive terms to the lessee. This may not yet be true for Ford (as best I can tell.... leasing information is very difficult to come by).
Can't speak about Mitsu, but I think GM's and certainly Nissan's (NMAC - Nissan Motor Acceptance Corporation) leasing is an extension of the car companies themselves so THEY actually get the $7,500 rebate; even more interesting about Ford is even though its very limited availability, they're already offering a $1,000 incentive on the C-Max hybrid --- of course this one doesn't get any federal incentives just the Energi (plug-in) does but still? No leasing deals but discount financing instead of the cash incentive as well ... It appears that they pre-built 566 of them in July (see article below) far more than the FFE so again I see these PHEV's getting more traction. We haven't had one moment of regret with our LEAF but to be honest we may have been just as happy with an FFE if they came out first even with the higher price premium but as with some car transactions you can typically only wait so long (trade-in values, condition of car being replaced, lease expiring, etc., etc.) before you need to get something --- we have a lot of folks who have Volts over on the mynissanleaf forum so you should be happy with it even though not a Ford! In AZ lots of concern over losing battery capacity with the heat in such a short time, we don't have that here in the midwest so can understand that as well ... so far the hybrid C-Max has done well in early road tests, can't wait to see how the Energi version does but looks like 201 for that.
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2012 ... -back.html
By the way the 19 launch markets this time around are ...
Austin and Houston, Texas; Boston; Chicago
; Denver; Detroit; Los Angeles; San Francisco; San Diego; New York City; northern New Jersey; Orlando; Phoenix and Tucson, Ariz.
; Portland, Ore.; Raleigh-Durham, N.C.; Richmond, Va.; Seattle; and Washington, D.C.
Thanks, like your points. I have never been sure as to NMAC, but I'll take your point as a working assumption. It is not GM which directly receives the $7500 credit but rather Ally Financial (the old GMAC, which I believe technically is not part of GM any more in a substantial way) and other banks also do some of the leasing. What I am also not certain of is whether the bank always gets the full credit or whether this depends on the income of the lessee.
With respect to the C-Max Energi and the Fusion Energi, both PHEVs appear not to use liquid cooling for the battery, but otherwise seem of interest for me as a potential buyer. Unfortunately, they are still, to me here in Arizona, vaporware, along with the long-promised FFE. the C-MAX non-pluggable hybrid is of no interest to me, since I can't charge the battery, and so it was not much more than annoyance when the salesperson mentioned it coming soon over the phone.
So, I guess Ford will be coming to market in its limited and slow way with a response to the Volt and the Prius PHEV more than two years after the Volt first hit the market, and will hit the market with the FFE about 22 months (or so) after Nissan started delivering BEVs to some American buyers and lessees. I am hoping Ford is not as slow to come around on the lease prices for the FFE, but I think it will be too late for my own personal decision. I like your acknowledgment from a distance of issues that others might have, and issues where the timing is different for each of us. Just this weekend I started to have an issue with my car that is acting up just a little and it acts as an impetus on this whole decision.
Taking a longer view, there could be reasons one might praise Ford in this or that area of taking their time (maybe in some ways it helps them), but as a potential purchaser, and one who traditionally needs to bottom-fish for used car values and so is interested for the cars to get out there and the used market to develop, I am quite frustrated.