ghiebert
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Re: 2017 FFE let's get some real data here.

Mon May 08, 2017 9:53 am

fbitz777 wrote:I have not yet studied the location of the fast DC chargers around me (I have however found a free one 2 miles from me at 50kw) so not sure the '17FFE is really for me (although I have one on order).
I live in an urban area, and there are a few fast chargers within about 20 km of where I live. Further away from the city, they are still too sparse here (IMHO) to depend on for trips with anything less than a Tesla or Bolt, especially since most of them are free and therefore lacking incentive to remain operational—I frequently see "out of service" complaints in the PlugShare comments—not to mention far away from L2 chargers that could serve as backups.

A half hour or hour wait every 150 km is not bad. A 24-hour or 7-day wait is much worse.
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pcph
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Re: 2017 FFE let's get some real data here.

Mon May 08, 2017 10:16 am

ghiebert wrote:A half hour or hour wait every 150 km is not bad. A 24-hour or 7-day wait is much worse.
If you had to charge on L2 due to defective DC charger, it would take 5 hours to charge, not 24. That's still pretty bad.

Yes an extra hour every 150 km is not bad, but it's not good either. Having an "easy way" in the form of a low consumption ICE in my garage, which I can drive at full speed and get there an hour earlier, is honestly way too convenient to not use it.

What I've proven with my trip is that I COULD choose to have a single car, and that car could be electric, without sacrificing the possibility of taking longer trips on occasion. It's totally doable and reasonable. But in my specific situation, given the fact that I also have an ICE because I need 2 cars (for the wife), the ICE is a much more tempting alternative for those occasional long trips.

ghiebert
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Re: 2017 FFE let's get some real data here.

Mon May 08, 2017 10:50 am

pcph wrote: If you had to charge on L2 due to defective DC charger, it would take 5 hours to charge, not 24. That's still pretty bad.
I agree. At least you could put enough L2 juice in to make it to the next DC charger. However (as far as I can tell from PlugShare) there aren't even L2 chargers nearby for some of them.
Having an "easy way" in the form of a low consumption ICE in my garage, which I can drive at full speed and get there an hour earlier, is honestly way too convenient to not use it.
We are and will always be a one-car (and one-driver's-licence) family. But there's a car-sharing co-op for local hauling and rentals for the occasional road trip. Much more practical for our situation than getting a second car.
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WattsUp
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Re: 2017 FFE let's get some real data here.

Tue May 09, 2017 10:40 am

ghiebert wrote:We are and will always be a one-car (and one-driver's-licence) family.
Huh? Is this a family of one person?

Assuming more than one, what if there's an emergency and the person with the license is incapacitated and can't drive?
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pcph
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Re: 2017 FFE let's get some real data here.

Tue May 09, 2017 11:21 am

WattsUp wrote:Assuming more than one, what if there's an emergency and the person with the license is incapacitated and can't drive?
This. It's reassuring to have 2 driver's licenses available.

ghiebert
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Re: 2017 FFE let's get some real data here.

Tue May 09, 2017 1:27 pm

WattsUp wrote:
ghiebert wrote:We are and will always be a one-car (and one-driver's-licence) family.
Huh? Is this a family of one person?

Assuming more than one, what if there's an emergency and the person with the license is incapacitated and can't drive?
911. For non-medical: taxi, bus, walking, friends...

Cars and driver's licenses are luxuries, not essentials.
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triangles
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Re: 2017 FFE let's get some real data here.

Tue May 09, 2017 6:52 pm

ghiebert wrote:Cars and driver's licenses are luxuries, not essentials.
:shock: Mind=BLOWN!

In my world, life would be very inconvenient without these. Not to mention quite undesirable. But hey whatever works for your location and lifestyle. I've traveled to Asia for months at a time and after a few weeks of having to rely on taxis and local transportation I begin to experience what I can best describe as something akin to claustrophobia. Maybe I'm just addicted to driving and those unpleasant feelings are withdraw symptoms. :?:
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joeyfraser
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Re: 2017 FFE let's get some real data here.

Tue May 16, 2017 8:46 am

Hello,

I just want to share my Ford Focus Electric 2017 Guess-O-Meter today :D

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0w ... 5062A5FB12
(sorry I don't know how to resize the image)
258 km / 161 miles

I think my Focus get nervous because we will receive our new Chevy Bolt next week! :lol:

fbitz777
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Re: 2017 FFE let's get some real data here.

Tue May 16, 2017 11:58 am

talking about '17FFE

WHY ARE SOME MANY OF THEM IN CANADA?

seems like you guys are getting huge tax incentives? Maybe Ford gets some incentives too?


(can't get one in Pittsburgh area!)
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joeyfraser
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Re: 2017 FFE let's get some real data here.

Tue May 16, 2017 12:40 pm

In Quebec we receive 8000$ and in Ontario it is 14000$


fbitz777 wrote:talking about '17FFE

WHY ARE SOME MANY OF THEM IN CANADA?

seems like you guys are getting huge tax incentives? Maybe Ford gets some incentives too?


(can't get one in Pittsburgh area!)

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