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Fiesta and Escape to get Sync 3

Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:32 am

Ford has announced that the 2016 Fiesta and Escape are to be the first vehicles with Sync 3 (I had heard that it was to be the new Mustang..oh well):
http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/f ... /28319693/

I wonder if the 2016 Focus will also get it...
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Re: Fiesta and Escape to get Sync 3

Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:52 am

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Re: Fiesta and Escape to get Sync 3

Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:18 am

I can do without. The system is going the way of standard car infotainment systems, which are cruddy in operation (why I actually like MFT). Yes buttons are bigger, screen is faster and capacitive, and more apps. I don't think we needed any more apps, and the corner layout with information in the buttons is what made MFT leaps and bounds ahead of other systems. While a modern touchscreen would be a great improvement, anyone who has used Mazdas, Chevy's, Nissans, and even BMWs systems may have liked the screen, but the way the info is presented is lacking compared to MFT. I have gotten compliments from a Tesla driver and a BMW i3 driver here at my work lot over how much is displayed with the info corners and intuitive our system is (yeah they mentioned the type of touchscreen). I really wish they had modernized MFT with Microsoft (Windows 10 Auto?) and not gone the way of the herd. Has anyone used android auto or Car play? Junk, pretty much useless over a complete infotainment system, that is why even budget cars will have that capability with an otherwise useless touchscreen.

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Re: Fiesta and Escape to get Sync 3

Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:37 am

It's crap when u can't have your favorite stations on 1 screen. Why do i have to press fm1 fm2 and fm3? Everything should be navigable from my steering wheel. Who did the user testing validation?

And it's buggy. It can't handle me pressing navigation while booting up. I have to restart the car and reboot the system and then wait for it to fully load and only then i can touch anything to do with navigation.

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Re: Fiesta and Escape to get Sync 3

Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:50 am

damania wrote:It's crap when u can't have your favorite stations on 1 screen. Why do i have to press fm1 fm2 and fm3? Everything should be navigable from my steering wheel
You can easily switch between fm1, fm2 & fm3 from the steering wheel. You can also switch to Sirius & other sources.
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Re: Fiesta and Escape to get Sync 3

Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:57 pm

Moolelo wrote:I can do without. The system is going the way of standard car infotainment systems, which are cruddy in operation (why I actually like MFT). Yes buttons are bigger, screen is faster and capacitive, and more apps. I don't think we needed any more apps, and the corner layout with information in the buttons is what made MFT leaps and bounds ahead of other systems. While a modern touchscreen would be a great improvement, anyone who has used Mazdas, Chevy's, Nissans, and even BMWs systems may have liked the screen, but the way the info is presented is lacking compared to MFT. I have gotten compliments from a Tesla driver and a BMW i3 driver here at my work lot over how much is displayed with the info corners and intuitive our system is (yeah they mentioned the type of touchscreen). I really wish they had modernized MFT with Microsoft (Windows 10 Auto?) and not gone the way of the herd. Has anyone used android auto or Car play? Junk, pretty much useless over a complete infotainment system, that is why even budget cars will have that capability with an otherwise useless touchscreen.

A agree. I'm very familiar with Volt and RAV-EV systems and I think what we have is much better. I truly don't understand why it's so disliked.
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Re: Fiesta and Escape to get Sync 3

Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:33 pm

If you don't like Sync, all you need to do is use a older version of BMWs iDrive for a while, and you'll recognize how bad things could be. Took me a year to figure out how to change from AM to FM without about ten different clicks on the controller on my 2008 BMW 550. Definitely designed by an engineer with very little feedback from a user.

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damania
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Re: Fiesta and Escape to get Sync 3

Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:43 pm

hybridbear wrote:
damania wrote:It's crap when u can't have your favorite stations on 1 screen. Why do i have to press fm1 fm2 and fm3? Everything should be navigable from my steering wheel
You can easily switch between fm1, fm2 & fm3 from the steering wheel. You can also switch to Sirius & other sources.
the million dollar question is why do u have fm1 fm2 fm3 in the first place? there's plenty of space on the screen for multiple rows of presets

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Re: Fiesta and Escape to get Sync 3

Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:47 am

One of the things I do for a living is design touchscreen operator interfaces for industrial machines.

So I hungrily steal ideas from automotive applications. My own FFE's good and bad points are reflected on my machines, and the couple of times I've sat in a Tesla I've been madly scribbling sketches of the layout and graphical details.

Because our product lifetimes are intended to be 5 to 20 years, I don't want or need a fast-moving OS like Android or iOS on my machines. But taking the cues from automotive vendors who have invested at least a little time into UI usability works well.
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Moolelo
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Re: Fiesta and Escape to get Sync 3

Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:00 am

That's pretty neat, I don't quite understand if you like this change or not though? Based on your profession your opinion interests me. It does sound like you agree that Carplay and Android auto are not better solutions and auto manufacturers should get more credit for the time they out into these interfaces?

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