michael wrote:I sure hope they have some REAL innovations. My lease has 18 months to go, and the way it's looking right now, I won't be able to justify replacing the FFE with another Ford product.
150 mile range (genuinely achievable under a wide variety of conditions)
Heat pump heating
DC or at least 10 kW charging
That would be enough to keep me
Throw in a little range extender engine like BMW and take over the world
I realize you are dreaming and that's cool.
Some way to heat the car without killing the battery would be amazing. Let it warm the batteries at the same time. I don't care if it is some crazy technology.
Faster charging for the FFE would be the best thing in the world. The only trouble is stringing that together so the car can go farther - a la superchargers. Just don't see that happening. Destination charging is a brighter idea for this car or anything with 150 mile range.
That 150 mile range - there will always be caveats with it. Variety of conditions is impossible to meet. One person will say speed limit + 5 MPH should be reasonable. Cold weather, I should still get my 150 miles or whatever the rated range no matter the temperature. You're never going to see that happen.
Tesla - Last week I took my son back to college, I should have arrived with over 100 miles buffer. Instead, the car only had 40 miles range left. According to your requirements, I should have been mad, the car didn't deliver. 260 miles of range turned into 180. There's something way wrong with that. Well the caveats were big. Drove highway in the cold (25 degrees and very windy) with four big people and lots of stuff. Drove over 70 MPH - sometimes 80. Kept the car at 65 degrees. Was that "real world" 150 miles of range?
Count me out on the range extender motor - why am I going to haul around all that weight, stupid gasoline, and maintenance that I might need one day? It will be interesting to see how many people buy that little BMW motor.
Actually not dreaming, I'm serious.
150 mile range need not be under "all" circumstances, but at least reasonable ones. Let's say 50 degrees outside, 70 cabin temperature, 65 MPH? I'd say the current FFE has a 60 mile range under reasonable conditions, so Ok, I'd settle for twice that. Today's RAV-4 EV has 120 mile range under reasonable conditions at extended charge, 100 at normal charge. I drive 80-100 miles on a typical day, so I am dependent on being able to get a charge. Without workplace or other destination charging, the FFE wouldn't do the job
The heat pump was for me, not the battery. Nissan provides that in the Leaf, not too much to ask. The present heater draws 6 kW when running at full blast. In an hour it could use 20-25 miles of range (if working full tilt to maintain cabin temperature). That's a huge handicap in cold weather.
The battery would probably be at least twice the current size (35-40 kWh usable), so 10kW charging is needed to retain the 4-hour charge we currently have. Toyota and Mercedes offer that.
And I would probably go without the range extender, as you say, since my fleet already includes two Volts. But it would be the ticket for single-car owners or those who are totally hung up on "what if I want to drive to Vegas..". That's why it would be a real turning point in attractiveness to the masses. But it's not too much to ask the option...they sell a lot more BMW I3s, Energis, and Volts than FFEs. You and I may be willing to go without the ICE, but most people aren't yet ready. I have a friend who owns three Volts, all with 10,000 mile a year leases. Nobody in his family drive far. But I could not convince him to buy an FFE in place of one of the Volts...."what if i want to go somewhere it can't reach..."
But another 70 mile electric car? An Energi with only 7 kWh? Neither one is attractive for my next car. So that's why I'm saying as things stand now, Ford doesn't offer what I would want. Don't get me wrong, the FFE is serving me very, very well, 29000 electric miles in 15 months, but I expect more next time. Chevy had a chance to do really well with the Volt 2.0 but based on the rumors, it will be more like a Volt 1.2. Surely by then someone will have taken the next step. The FFE is now a 3 year old design, time for Ford to do better.