Gigi
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Re: Questions

Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:54 pm

jzn010 wrote:My daily drive being inside of the energi's range was what got me in the door to look at it. To justify the higher price I figure we'd need to be able to take it on weekend trips to keep miles off our aging suv and I feel that the trunk space would be enough of an issue that it is currently removed from consideration. This opened the door for the lower priced FFE where overnight bags are not required. The shorter payoff period also lends itself nicely to replace the SUV with whoever is first to market with a PHEV suv.
If you have a vehicle that can handle luggage for long trips, I don't think you can go wrong with buying or leasing the Focus Electric so long as you are able to drive it within its range limit and charge at home.

Another alternative to the Focus Electric now or looking further down the road as a replacement for your SUV, might be to consider the C-Max Energi. It has the same drivetrain and battery as the Fusion Energi, but with a lot more cargo space than either the Focus Electric or Fusion Energi. Have you looked at these?

We were close to buying the C-Max our first time around, but looks and a quieter and smoother drive swayed us in favor of the Fusion. The big factors in the C-Max's favor were cargo space and headroom. We considered the C-Max again when we were about to buy the Focus Electric and decided for the Electric because of the economics of being all electric.
2014 Ford Focus Electric - Oxford White
2013 Ford Fusion Energi SE - White Platinum Metallic Tri-coat
2012 Ford Fusion Hybrid - Tuxedo Black Metallic
2005 Ford F-150 Lariat - Arizona Beige Metallic
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Re: Questions

Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:29 pm

The 2014 FFE I own, did not come with Homelink.

The Titanium comes with a sunroof (I think). There is no sunroof option for the FFE.

I own both an FFE and a Titanium Focus. JMueller has it exactly right, if you drive the Titanium, handling is pretty similar. The FFE feels more sure footed and flatter in turns. The FFE accelerates from a stop light way faster and smoother. One gear in the FFE is a special feeling. I like the way the FFE handles better than the Titanium.

The rear seats are identical between the two models. If the booster seats fit in the Titanium, they will fit in the FFE.

One other thing - the FFE crash testing was better than the ICE Focus.
2014 Platinum White FFE (Turning in mid Dec. 2016 25,000 miles)
2013 Ingot Silver FFE
2012 Titanium ICE Focus
2014 Tesla Model S 85

jzn010
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Re: Questions

Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:02 am

I made it out to the dealer this weekend and drove a nice white titanium hatch and was pretty impressed. The two weakest points in the car I felt were the engine noise and the shifting. Conveniently neither of these is a concern with the electric version.

The use of soft touch material was appreciated and I thought Sync was pretty nice. Due to the spare tire and the foam spacer I walked away with the same uncertainty on the hatch space. Until I can view one in stock the video and measurements will have to do.

The stick on keypads are pretty tacky especially when compared to the light up frames on some of the other models (go figure $28k vs 40). I do a lot of running and don't have a good spot to carry a key so that is a nice feature especially since the proximity key kind of prevents me from just sticking it up under the car somewhere to hid. I have seen others stick the pad in a more discrete place.

This is really looking to be a solid car and it is starting to surprise me there isn't more discussion of it online. The Leaf forums seem to be very popular yet not a lot of people are comparing the two. I consider them direct competitors and with the current cash back the money seems to be tipped in this direction.

Overall the car has survived round 1 of the vetting process and I'll continue reading here and on jmueller's blog.

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Re: Questions

Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:07 pm

jzn010 wrote:I made it out to the dealer this weekend and drove a nice white titanium hatch and was pretty impressed. The two weakest points in the car I felt were the engine noise and the shifting. Conveniently neither of these is a concern with the electric version.

The use of soft touch material was appreciated and I thought Sync was pretty nice. Due to the spare tire and the foam spacer I walked away with the same uncertainty on the hatch space. Until I can view one in stock the video and measurements will have to do.

The stick on keypads are pretty tacky especially when compared to the light up frames on some of the other models (go figure $28k vs 40). I do a lot of running and don't have a good spot to carry a key so that is a nice feature especially since the proximity key kind of prevents me from just sticking it up under the car somewhere to hid. I have seen others stick the pad in a more discrete place.

This is really looking to be a solid car and it is starting to surprise me there isn't more discussion of it online. The Leaf forums seem to be very popular yet not a lot of people are comparing the two. I consider them direct competitors and with the current cash back the money seems to be tipped in this direction.

Overall the car has survived round 1 of the vetting process and I'll continue reading here and on jmueller's blog.
Leaf promotes, Ford pretty much does not. In my area I see a lot of Leafs, Volts, & Tesla's. I've seen 1 other FFE besides my own. And most of the dealers around here either don't carry FFE or carry 1. When I bought mine back in late Nov, they had 1 and didn't even try and talk me into buying it. It was more like "oh you want the FFE, ok."

If I wasn't set on getting it, I would have walked. I mean they really didn't care if I bought the car or not and I went there looking to sign a deal without even getting into any conversations. I did my how, knew it was the car I wanted, and even with that, it was almost like, they didn't give a damn if I bought the car or not. After they gave up trying to sell me on the Energi and c-max, they kind of didn't care anymore. It's like the FFE is a car they were dumped with and didn't want to sell it.

I mean after I bought it I had to spend like 3 hours waiting for them to charge it. "oh it's not charged" was the answer.

It is far different compared to when I bought an ICE a few years back where they refused to let me leave the lot and I test drove like 5 different cars that day. It's night and day.

It might not be like this everywhere, but I live in an area where there are far more people buying/driving Electrics and hybrids compared to other states, so I can't imagine sales people or dealers caring a whole lot more in an area where only a handful of people own any electric cars. And it's been like this at every Ford dealer I've visited around here. Some didn't even know they sold the FFE.

It is a bit different at Nissan and Chevy dealerships. The Volt is different, but when you visit their dealerships, it kind of feels like they have a plan to market and sell these cars. Whereas with Ford, I don't get the feeling they care. And when one of the Directors of the company gives a statement about not caring to much about Electric cars, that's not really a good sign.

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