campfamily
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Location: Southern California

FFE is gone

Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:00 am

So yesterday was a sad day, I walked away from my trusty FFE after 3 1/2 years and 38,500 miles of ownership. The last drive down to the dealership to pick up my new car was bittersweet...anticipation for what I was getting, but sadness since the FFE had far exceeded my expectations. The FFE showed me that an electric car could meet more than 95% of my transportation needs, and do so at a cost far below a traditional vehicle with an ICE. It also did this without sacrificing the fun of driving. The Focus is a wonderful platform to begin with (I also own a Focus RS, which, if you haven't driven one, you really should!!), and the electrification of that platform doesn't sacrifice what it is really good at, which is road feel and driving dynamics.

Over the course of my FFE ownership, I had no repair bills or failures due to the car, except for the 12V battery, which died about 2 1/2 years into ownership and was replaced under the Ford factory warranty. I did have one breakdown, but that was not the fault of the car, it was my fault for leaving edibles in my garage that the local critters found and enjoyed, and then decided to continue feasting on the car wiring. My dealer fixed this for $400. I was still on the original tires, rotated every 7500 miles or so. Over the life of the car I kept a weekly log of energy useage. Over the entire 38,500 miles I averaged 246 Whr/mi. Lately my energy useage improved to the high 220's / low 230's. Not sure what I was doing different to cause this. But I was not a hyper-miler; I frequently was running on the speed limiter, just so that I wasn't getting run over by traffic. But I also spent a lot of time in bumper to bumper traffic. Depreciation, despite what the EV-critics say, was the best of any car I've ever owned. After incentives and discounts, I paid $13,800 for my car brand new. I was given $11,500 as a trade-in. Yes, compared to MSRP, that's a huge depreciation, but in real-time costs (which really matters), that is almost nothing.

I'm going to miss the FFE. It was highly practical, highly efficient, and a hoot to drive. I'm also going to miss this forum, which was very helpful when I was a noobie to EVs. I've since moved on to another EV, but the FFE will "always be my first"....and so I will always remember it fondly.

Cheers, and best of luck to the (shrinking) FFE population.

Keith
GONE - 2015 FFE, Magnetic with leather interior, debadged & tinted
38,500 miles (since May 2015), average 246 Wh/mile

REPLACED WITH - 2018 Tesla Model3, LR RWD, Obsidian Black
11,000 miles (since Nov 2018), average 235 Wh/mile

scottt
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Re: FFE is gone

Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:25 am

Sorry to see another go. I've got a Ford 8 year bumper to bumper warranty on mine....so the plan is to at least keep mine until late 2025.
2015 Magnetic FFE (aka Magneto) - Retired
2017 Kona Blue FFE (aka King Kona) - Current

campfamily
Posts: 441
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:07 am
Location: Southern California

Re: FFE is gone

Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:35 am

Been tracking my old car on the Ford app, it's already down at an auction house in San Diego (actually Otay Mesa, right next to the US/Mexico border). They didn't waste any time with it!
GONE - 2015 FFE, Magnetic with leather interior, debadged & tinted
38,500 miles (since May 2015), average 246 Wh/mile

REPLACED WITH - 2018 Tesla Model3, LR RWD, Obsidian Black
11,000 miles (since Nov 2018), average 235 Wh/mile

SpecVStrom
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Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:51 pm
Location: SF North Bay

Re: FFE is gone

Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:44 pm

Hey campfamily,

I didn't factory reset my 2014 FFE before lease returning it. I continued to track it to various warehouses and storage facilities. Then one day I looked it up, and it was in Amman Jordan. Apparently a lot of FFE's ended up in Jordan. There is quite an FFE following there.

PS I bought a barely used 2016 FFE that I now have. Was 18 months into service and 2300 total miles. $15900.


Jaden
2016 Ford Focus Electric (purchased 11/17/18 had 2,346 original miles)
2014 Ford Focus Electric (Lease returned 8-16-2017, now in Amman Jordan)
2014 Triumph Tiger Explorer
2009 Suzuki V-Strom 1000
2003 Nissan Sentra SE-R SpecV

campfamily
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Location: Southern California

Re: FFE is gone

Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:56 am

My car "disappeared" after about two weeks at a place called Cedars Express International in Carson, CA. While it was there I would periodically get the "Your car has gone to sleep, no more communication until somebody wakes it up" message, but then somebody would open a door or move it across the parking lot and it would wake up again. Last week, I started getting "Update Failed" every time I tried to see where it was; I'm thinking, since this is a different message, that the car might have been put in a container or in a truck, so that it can't communicate with the outside world. Wondering where it's going to show up.

@SpecVStrom - were you able to track your car in Amman? I didn't think the modems Ford put in these cars worked outside of the continental US?

Keith
GONE - 2015 FFE, Magnetic with leather interior, debadged & tinted
38,500 miles (since May 2015), average 246 Wh/mile

REPLACED WITH - 2018 Tesla Model3, LR RWD, Obsidian Black
11,000 miles (since Nov 2018), average 235 Wh/mile

EVA
Posts: 874
Joined: Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:10 pm
Location: Chicago Area

Re: FFE is gone

Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:43 am

What a great story. It is a fantastic car. And congratulations on the Model 3. It is a whole different world in that car.

When we turned in our FFE from lease a couple years ago - I could track the car for a few weeks. At some point, Ford figures out you sold the car and turns off your account.

A long time ago when we totaled an FFE, Ford wasn't doing any kind of clean up of the accounts. I was able to track if for a very long time to an auction / salvage yard. At some point the battery died and I couldn't track the car.

On the other hand, the car might be in a container headed to Jordan.
2014 Platinum White FFE (Turning in mid Dec. 2016 25,000 miles)
2013 Ingot Silver FFE
2012 Titanium ICE Focus
2014 Tesla Model S 85

AAFEV
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Re: FFE is gone

Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:50 pm

re: FFE is gone

I am half way thorugh a 3 year lease on 2017 FFE; and had a 2014 FFE on 3 year lease before that. Somehow I can still track the first car, it is on Aman, Jordan. I found they have a favorable tax set up there for used BEV's and maybe hybrids too.

Both cars great in my view.

campfamily
Posts: 441
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:07 am
Location: Southern California

Re: FFE is gone

Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:02 am

AAFEV wrote:re: FFE is gone

I am half way thorugh a 3 year lease on 2017 FFE; and had a 2014 FFE on 3 year lease before that. Somehow I can still track the first car, it is on Aman, Jordan. I found they have a favorable tax set up there for used BEV's and maybe hybrids too.

Both cars great in my view.
So, when you say you can track the car in Amman, Jordan, can you see that from the Ford app? Reason I ask, my old car disappeared from the app in early January, after sitting at a shipping company in Carson, CA. Over the weekend I got a text notification that a warning light had turned on. When I went to look on the app, I could see that the car was being driven again, and when I went to look at the location, it showed the car was 7574 miles away, but the location icon had a red dot above it. Coincidentally, Jordan is about 7500 miles from Los Angeles as the crow flies.......

Keith
GONE - 2015 FFE, Magnetic with leather interior, debadged & tinted
38,500 miles (since May 2015), average 246 Wh/mile

REPLACED WITH - 2018 Tesla Model3, LR RWD, Obsidian Black
11,000 miles (since Nov 2018), average 235 Wh/mile

campfamily
Posts: 441
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:07 am
Location: Southern California

Re: FFE is gone

Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:10 am

Update........I am currently in Paris. On a whim, decided to check if I got anything different from the Ford app. The FFE is in Jordan, just a bit west of Amman, at a place called Az Zarqa.

Keith
GONE - 2015 FFE, Magnetic with leather interior, debadged & tinted
38,500 miles (since May 2015), average 246 Wh/mile

REPLACED WITH - 2018 Tesla Model3, LR RWD, Obsidian Black
11,000 miles (since Nov 2018), average 235 Wh/mile

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