Gigi
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Re: Nissan Leaf vs Ford Focus Electric

Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:09 pm

My wife and I displayed our Fusion Energi and Focus Electric at the National Drive Electric Week event this past Saturday at Atlantic Station in Atlanta. My wife remarked on the number of Leaf owners who stopped to talk who said that they wished that they had bought an FFE and who said that when their lease was up they were getting an FFE. Battery degradation in the Leaf was the chief complaint. The FFE's interior and handling were second. Several said that they didn't know about the FFE when they bought.
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RPadTV
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Re: Nissan Leaf vs Ford Focus Electric

Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:32 am

I had my heart set on a Leaf, partially because I like its quirky looks and mainly for its CHAdeMO charger. Unfortunately, the five dealerships I went through gave me horrible prices. I "settled" on the Ford and am very happy with it. It drives better. The standard features are better (stereo, app access, etc.). The liquid-cooled battery is nice to have, though not terribly meaningful on a three-year lease. While there are times when I wish I had the Leaf's CHAdeMO charger and trunk space, I'm enjoying the Focus Electric.

ElSupreme
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Re: Nissan Leaf vs Ford Focus Electric

Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:59 am

Gigi wrote:My wife and I displayed our Fusion Energi and Focus Electric at the National Drive Electric Week event this past Saturday at Atlantic Station in Atlanta. My wife remarked on the number of Leaf owners who stopped to talk who said that they wished that they had bought an FFE and who said that when their lease was up they were getting an FFE. Battery degradation in the Leaf was the chief complaint. The FFE's interior and handling were second. Several said that they didn't know about the FFE when they bought.
I've met about 3 LEAF owners that said similar things when I told them about the FFE.

Really the only thing the LEAF has over the FFE IMO is folded down seats cargo room.

I've 'sold' so many LEAFS, at least two Model Ss. I really want someone I know to get an FFE.
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michael
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Re: Nissan Leaf vs Ford Focus Electric

Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:44 pm

ElSupreme wrote: I've 'sold' so many LEAFS, at least two Model Ss. I really want someone I know to get an FFE.
I've "sold" seven Volts and a RAV-4 EV. Likewise, I really want one of my friends to get an FFE but I can't swing it. Even the family who bought three Volts...you'd think they could deal with one of them being a BEV, but nope...too apprehensive...?? And the amazing thing about Volt drivers is they are so proud of never needing to use gas. With an FFE they could double their range and halve their charging time.

I'm working on the ones who got the RAV EV to dump their ICE and replace it with an FFE. The RAV range is sufficient for essentially everything they do short of planned trips, for which a rental would be a fine solution.

Anytime I talk a friend out of a Leaf or a Mercedes I'm happy...
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Re: Nissan Leaf vs Ford Focus Electric

Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:27 am

Here is an excellent (albeit a bit dated ) review from the New York Times of the lovely FFE:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/06/autom ... 3A15%22%7D

The pictures are amazing!

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Re: Nissan Leaf vs Ford Focus Electric

Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:51 am

I have been driving a Nissan Leaf for the past three days because my FFE is in shop for SSN. I can say that I am glad to have bought the FFE. When I was deciding to by EV, I reject Leaf purely based on the looks of it. But now after driving it, the Cluster interface is confusing and looks cheap. Ford has a done a much better job of presenting the right information to the users in much more user friendly way.

WattsUp
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Re: Nissan Leaf vs Ford Focus Electric

Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:10 am

mdashali wrote:Ford has a done a much better job of presenting the right information to the users in much more user friendly way.
And a much classier way... I love the way the FFE displays look. Simple, clean, customizable.
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Re: Nissan Leaf vs Ford Focus Electric

Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:39 am

klusters wrote:Or if anyone if you have driven both, I would love to hear your reasons as to why you chose the FFE.
We recently went through our own thorough evaluation of both the Leaf and the Focus. The car will be my primary commuter (ca 65-70 mi round trip, no charging at work) in Atlanta, GA. Here's why we chose to buy the Focus (yes, we went "all in"):

1) Crash test winner by a long shot.
2) Battery thermal management = capacity loss is not an issue (critical for my commute).
3) Asthetics. Either you like the Leaf or you don't. We don't.
4) Build quality/engineering. Better on the Ford. Helps it's based on solid ICE vehicle.
5) Handling. It's FUN to drive.

EPA range for both cars is similar enough that the differential was not part of our decision making. Battery capacity has a far larger impact on range than what the EPA has to say. My commute is at the outer limits of the rated range. A small loss of capacity will render the car useless for my needs. Needless to say, the battery capacity challenges the Leaf has had didn't inspire confidence.

Cargo capacity is a non-issue for us. This is my commuter. If we need to carry lots of things or people, we have other vehicles that can do that.

Have fun deciding!

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michael
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Re: Nissan Leaf vs Ford Focus Electric

Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:07 am

It bums me out each time someone gets a leaf because they had no idea the FFE even exists.. Shame on you Ford for not pushing it the way Nissan does the leaf or GM the volt


And as Jen said...based on an established ICE vehicle. That's one
Reason I went with the FFE...my daughter had a Focus that was a very
Good car


When people criticize because it's a compliance car, I don't understand the logic. Each compliance car is an EV on the road in place of the equivalent ICE. GOOD!!!
2013 FFE Returned after 3 years with 52,000 miles and battery down to 15.2 kWh
2014 Volt returned with 43,000 miles
2014 Volt 26,000 miles
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davideos
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Re: Nissan Leaf vs Ford Focus Electric

Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:24 am

An acquaintance I know bought a Leaf. He knew I had an EV but didn't ask me about it. When he was talking to me about his recent acquisition, he noted that he thought I owned a Volt. :shock:

On one side, I'm glad I drive a more unique car; but on the other, dealer support isn't the best and even 3rd party accessories are few due to low FFE volume.

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