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would you recommend a FFE to a friend?

Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:40 pm

I am strongly considering leasing a focus electric and wanted to find out how happy or not everyone is with their purchase. I went out on a limb and purchased a Tesla model S, by far the most expensive car I've ever purchased, and would highly recommend it without reservation to other early adopters. Can you say something similar about the FFE? If so, why? If not, why?
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Re: would you recommend a FFE to a friend?

Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:56 pm

My FFE is the best car I have ever owned, and one of the best I've ever driven. It just feels like a great car, probably one of the best in its class, electric or otherwise. Luckily, I've not experienced (after about 3 months of ownership and 4000 miles) any of the teething problems others here have reported. So, right now, I am super happy with mine. And, having been a non-domestic car owner my entire life, I am extremely impressed (and proud) with the Ford quality (maybe it really is Job #1). 8-)

So, yes, for someone with appropriate driving needs (radius of about 60 miles from home, for "range comfort"), vehicle usage (doesn't need to go pick up lumber), and ability to live the "EV lifestyle" (good access to charging), I would recommend the FFE hands down.

But, why lease an FFE if you already have a Model S, the creme de la creme?

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Edit: Okay, glowing praise aside, my biggest gripe with the FFE is the current state of the MyFordTouch software. While it does work, it has some annoying bugs and is a bit over-complicated. For non-technical people, it could be a turn-off. (I am a technical person, so I can cope) ;) That said, software can always be improved... and I have high hopes for the pending 3.5 update (I currently have the buggy 3.1, as most of us do). So, for now I'm giving the state of MFT a pass. As for the rest of car -- its physical aspects and performance as an EV -- I stand by my original comments above.
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Re: would you recommend a FFE to a friend?

Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:16 am

WattsUp wrote:My FFE is the best car I have ever owned, and one of the best I've ever driven. It just feels like a great car, probably one of the best in its class, electric or otherwise. Luckily, I've not experienced any of the teething problems other have reported. So, right now, I am super happy with mine. And, having been a non-domestic car owner my entire life, I am extremely impressed (and proud) with the Ford quality (maybe it really is Job #1). 8-)

So, yes, for someone with appropriate driving needs (radius of about 60 miles from home, for "range comfort"), vehicle usage (doesn't need to go pick up lumber), and ability to live the "EV lifestyle" (good access to charging), I would recommend the FFE hands down.

But, why lease an FFE if you already have a Model S, the creme de la creme?
Awesome. Glad you are impressed with the focus. The reason that I want another electric vehicle is to get away from ICE vehicles altogether. The model s has so impressed me we're never getting an ICE ever again and the wife needs to drive something. We realized that we hardly ever drive more than 30 miles in a day so the model s is overkill for our needs and, while it's worth it, it is expensive. The leaf is so damn ugly the wife refuses to drive one. All the other available full sized cars still need gasoline (volt, etc).

I guess my biggest worry is that Ford is selling the FFE as a compliance vehicle and really has no interest in the tech or the owners satisfaction post-purchase.
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Re: would you recommend a FFE to a friend?

Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:34 am

WattsUp wrote: Edit: Okay, glowing praise aside, my biggest gripe with the FFE is the current state of the MyFordTouch software. While it does work, it has some annoying bugs and is a bit over-complicated. For non-technical people, it could be a turn-off. (I am a technical person, so I can cope) ;) That said, software can always be improved... and I have high hopes for the pending 3.5 update (I currently have the buggy 3.1, as most of us do). So, for now I'm giving the state of MFT a pass. As for the rest of car -- its physical aspects and performance as an EV -- I stand by my original comments above.
Thanks for the update. I am pretty good with technical things and thought the system was ok. Can you elaborate on the bugs? Is the software specific to the FFE or is it in other cars too? I'd worry if it's just in the FFE because there would be less reason to fix it given the limited production numbers for the model.
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Re: would you recommend a FFE to a friend?

Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:45 am

vetboy45 wrote:Thanks for the update. I am pretty good with technical things and thought the system was ok. Can you elaborate on the bugs? Is the software specific to the FFE or is it in other cars too? I'd worry if it's just in the FFE because there would be less reason to fix it given the limited production numbers for the model.
The My Ford Touch system is in just about every car Ford makes these days (even the trucks now--last summer was the first year you could get it in the F-150).

The version running in most of the FFE's (3.1) is at least a version behind as most all of the other Ford MFT's are running 3.5 (as is some of the newer FFE's that have been built recently).

Version 3.5 fixes quite a lot of the really annoying bugs with 3.1 and runs noticeably faster as well.
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Re: would you recommend a FFE to a friend?

Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:34 am

jmueller065 wrote:Version 3.5 fixes quite a lot of the really annoying bugs with 3.1 and runs noticeably faster as well.
Not to mention that it appears that the 3.5 update for the FFE will have some new EV-specific features, as seen in this video (released in March):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IOixDw4_cc

So, it doesn't appear that Ford has "forgotten" about the FFE with regards to software. And some people picking up newer FFEs have reported that this update is already installed on their car, but the rest of us are waiting to be notified.
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Re: would you recommend a FFE to a friend?

Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:38 am

There are also many review videos to be found on YouTube. I watched all I could find before I got my FFE. Just search YouTube for "ford focus electric review".
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Re: would you recommend a FFE to a friend?

Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:21 am

Would I recommend it to my friends. Absolutely! In fact my Dad is looking to get one now due to having been suitably impressed with my experience so far and the economics of it all when leasing. The Model S is my current dream car but I don't yet have that kind of money so the FFE will have to do. The only real regret I have is getting the 10.5K miles per year instead of 12K as I want to drive this car all the time just to drive it. Only got enough for what we needed however.

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Re: would you recommend a FFE to a friend?

Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:29 pm

I'm still loving mine. Where you at vetboy, if you want I can swap cars for a day :D

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Re: would you recommend a FFE to a friend?

Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:55 pm

I've had mine for a month now. So far put about 750 miles on it, I leased it for 10,500 per year. At this point its the best car I have driven in terms of refinement. Mainly because its so quiet. My other car is a Honda S2000 with many mods so it's a night and day difference. Before that I had a BMW 330ci and the FFE is a more comfortable car.

I haven't had any real problems with it at this point. One minor problem was a bug where it showed + 75 on recharge despite just starting to drive it. Another quality concern is slight rattling speaker and door trim is NOT as refined as BMW (to be expected I think.)

I bought this car knowing its boring and a commuter, but I'm starting to really enjoy driving it, to the point of looking forward to it. Maybe it's because my S2000 destroyed my ears and had zero refinement? This car feels like a Rolls Royce Phantom after my Honda.

I would recommend it easily. Everyone always stops to ask me about it if they notice the electric on it.

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